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🔗 But a woman who wants a relationship with him.
🔗 Why do you say
🔗 that he's clearly not capable look at the trail of broken homes he left behind them.
🔗 Rick said nobody I knew the two of you bang heads. Sometimes that.
🔗 I didn't you know he had quite still opinion of him.
🔗 Maybe of not want to admit it till now.
🔗 I wanted to accept what staring me in the face.
🔗 Serious anyone knows Toby It would be you who is a leech.
🔗 On legal conceited. Unscrupulous leech.
🔗 I can't see the point pretending otherwise.
🔗 how he doesn't even know the half of it.
🔗 Well tomorrow night at seven Pip decides to play things are rather cool.
🔗 We're holding up not on Radio four. It's front row with some air met.
🔗 Hello tonight.
🔗 Jamie Cullum on his late night prom the movie nerve sucks us into the teenage world
🔗 of filming dangerous stunts for the online mob beheading bankers
🔗 and killing super rich tax evaders why a Greek crime writer is targeting the
🔗 villains of the country's economic meltdown
🔗 and in our series featuring artist in residence.
🔗 We meet poet Johnny fluffy punk and Betty in a Gloucestershire care home.
🔗 If you're lucky your stories might end up one of A B. and Now I'm on the failing.
🔗 Famous knowing Jayma my old school. I'm so glad. Never too late.
🔗 I was. More on the poets and I get home later the musician and Radio two D.J.
🔗 Jamie Cullum knows a thing
🔗 or two about putting together an evening's entertainment famed for his powerful
🔗 improvise ational style and not having a setlist. He's.
🔗 Go to Hollywood film grant to Reynosa Clint Eastwood
🔗 and eagerly seeks out new talent to play with the his late night prawn he's put
🔗 together a night mixing up all kinds of musical sources including Brazilian drums
🔗 his own compositions jazz standards like Cole Porter
🔗 and a reworking of the Beach Boys God only knows featuring the Roundhouse choir
🔗 and the heritage orchestra. It's six years since his last B.B.C.
🔗 and I went to watch him in rehearsal at the Royal Albert Hall this afternoon to find
🔗 out what we might expect this time.
🔗 I wrote a kind of a script of how I wanted the show to go because I had the idea of
🔗 it. Starting off with just the piano
🔗 and fun enough on starting playing the very first song I learnt at the piano.
🔗 In a way that kind of sets the tone for me it's kind of.
🔗 Almost second journey from kind of better musician to you know someone who gets a
🔗 record deal and plays a big ensemble
🔗 and then it's called Do you know what it may it means to miss New Orleans
🔗 and something quite odd about the idea of a kid in chicken I'm kind of with long
🔗 hair he's in heavy metal band suddenly deciding to play an old you know New Orleans
🔗 thing that he had Dr John and Professor Longhair and Harry Connick Jr do
🔗 but I don't play it so much anymore but I felt like a although no one will know
🔗 that story necessarily
🔗 when they see me start the show with it to me it feels some an interesting way to
🔗 start it from from my point if you do you know what to
🔗 do hourly
🔗 there actually are those
🔗 then we introduce a D.C.
🔗 Introducing act. D.C.
🔗 Introducing is something I've been dipping into a lot on my radio show they have
🔗 the opportunity to upload their knees to the B.B.C.
🔗 Interesting website and then all the D.J.'s from around the B.B.C.
🔗 Can just go into this resource and go Wow this sounds interesting.
🔗 And we can certain you discover he's actually know
🔗 that our record sales some of course like twenty plays on You Tube
🔗 or ten plays on sound cloud. But you find these acts that are wonderful.
🔗 So we go straight to a introducing act and then we introduce the drum orchestra
🔗 and then. The big orchestra and then the big bad
🔗 and then finally we introduce the Roundhouse choir
🔗 and they are very much embedded in this problem as any professional choir would be
🔗 and I've met them through doing workshops of the round house and charity events
🔗 and also so you know because I was watching in rehearsal
🔗 and he was doing this amazing you know improvised riffs in the middle of a couple
🔗 songs and then suddenly the next split second you thinking. Well that's great.
🔗 Oh please don't get nervous. Yes I do you.
🔗 and I think I think nerves are important actually because it means your you know
🔗 I'm operating here definitely as someone who is in
🔗 or of many of the people on stage including you know a singer who's getting this
🔗 called Ask I mean she's literally one of my favorite singers in the world.
🔗 She's she's an industry giant you know she's she's a musician's musician who I
🔗 think deserves to be a really great star in this country
🔗 and it's just still a kind of key musical genre in understanding you even though
🔗 you've always defined any merit categorization
🔗 and I think in part because in the prom so much of the classical music performed it
🔗 was about precision.
🔗 You know to nail that mic just right and the silence has got to be just so
🔗 and you have that great a margin to play with is that quite important.
🔗 The idea of whether you know jazz and where I fit into it.
🔗 I stopped trying to think about
🔗 that really cause it is central to what I do it is I think I've started to realise
🔗 that it's technically your job to decide on not decide
🔗 and it's not mine because I enjoy the freedom I get as a jazz musician to explore.
🔗 You know jazz issues of always explored other genres
🔗 and I think jazz is very receptive to sucking in you know hip hop and soul
🔗 and funk and classical
🔗 and you know free improvise Asian Archie think it's a purchase thing this problem.
🔗 I think it's something the British do so well as is it is coming together and.
🔗 Aberrated across cultures across a generous and doing it in a way
🔗 that is actually unselfconscious and I notice that traveling the world
🔗 and doing you know just things.
🔗 Something about this country does collaboration and does really really well
🔗 and I think that's a pretty cool reminder this time
🔗 and I have a question if you about nostalgia
🔗 and I noticed in rehearsals it's one called Puerto trackin in the mix.
🔗 People sometimes feel ambivalent about it on the one hand it's lovely
🔗 that there is such a desire to revisit all these great classics
🔗 and reinterpret them and it's something you seem to really enjoy
🔗 and on the other I think some people a bit nervousness about whether it can be T.
🔗 Say what you feel want to shout or well my first album is called points my style.
🔗 Jack. And I discovered most of these standards
🔗 and a lot of the jazz classics through hip hop music electronic music so the first
🔗 just concert I went to the elements of jazz had no you know people there you know
🔗 it was I didn't grow up thinking just assisting that was something of the past
🔗 that nostalgic thing.
🔗 I don't know doesn't really follow it doesn't really fly with me probably flies of
🔗 music critics and harden kind of music fans.
🔗 I think go to music college and study piano I can't read music.
🔗 I've always heard things the you can't read music.
🔗 No no I can't remember exactly by ear so
🔗 and I didn't have anyone saying you have to take Cole Porter like this it's always
🔗 been something I've just enjoyed as a as music really is it tough for an orchestra
🔗 with because I noticed just off the rehearsal they would give notes on changing
🔗 something to a different case.
🔗 No you don't read music gives you improvising your mind works the way it does.
🔗 Is it sometimes difficult for musicians who've been traditionally trained to kind
🔗 of work with you. Absolutely. You know it isn't it.
🔗 That's why Tom Richard Jewel's popularity's orchestra so important for me because
🔗 there are places where I'm not sticking exactly two hours for four minutes actually
🔗 you can't do that.
🔗 Though not one to say
🔗 that it's a tactic of choral works version of God Only Knows by the Beach Boys the
🔗 God the God only knows if you were trying to think of a way to end
🔗 and I wanted to end in a way that really wasn't about me
🔗 and it was about about everyone
🔗 that was there are sick of this kind of sing along at the end it was such easy.
🔗 But actually.
🔗 God only knows is such a masterpiece of construction
🔗 and it's been a great joy just pull it apart
🔗 and learn it for this probably because you can just the layers in there are endless.
🔗 So we have we pulled it apart
🔗 and it's really a moment for everyone to sing along but it.
🔗 It's impossible for that song to be cheesy in the heat
🔗 or bad job of it with the range to faithfully.
🔗 It just comes together has to be always to join in the one place where the
🔗 Jamie Cullum in rehearsal for tonight's late night prom at the Royal Albert Hall at
🔗 ten fifteen. It's sold out but it will of course people cast live on Radio three
🔗 and remain on the i Player for months after.
🔗 Now the idea of immersive video gaming has fascinated filmmakers since Tron in the
🔗 eighty's the new film nerves attempt to get inside the high adrenaline thrills of
🔗 the you cheap generation.
🔗 If you've seen those clips of people attempting dangerous stunts for a massive
🔗 audience which is crossing train lines
🔗 or climb tall buildings you get the idea part science fiction set in the now
🔗 and part teenage coming of age tale the film is based on a young adult novel.
🔗 It stars Emma Roberts is a shy school leaver who surprises her lawyer.
🔗 Friend and protective mother Judy.
🔗 Lewis by joining an online game where participants can win big prizes for
🔗 completing dead set by the online watches reacted on a colony diner read fifty
🔗 minutes. I signed up for the family. Rick Perry you bring up as a player.
🔗 What is
🔗 that so hard to believe I don't buy
🔗 that it's important enough to shut down.
🔗 They can't shut it down
🔗 that everybody.
🔗 Emma Roberts is Vivian miles high. There is Tommy in nerve B.C.
🔗 Meets the handsome in another player
🔗 but if he is innocent as he claims to be of where the game is going the novelist
🔗 and critic named Goldman is a cute game herself writes games and gave nerves ago.
🔗 I really like this whole new me and
🔗 that the teenagers sucked into a night New York to the perspective of her followers
🔗 and I went to see it with two teenagers who all agreed
🔗 that it works better if you don't know what's coming.
🔗 So the less we can give away about the events the better. Did you fall for it.
🔗 I think there's lots to love about it.
🔗 I think it's made by the DI same directors who made catfish which is a great sort
🔗 of documentary about somebody being conned by someone on the Internet
🔗 and it is very unclear through that movie.
🔗 What that convoy was so these directors really understand the Internet world.
🔗 I think the game nerve itself the idea that your challenge do Dez
🔗 and they are very scary
🔗 when you're watching them because they're based on mining your personal data
🔗 that you've posted online.
🔗 Yes And I think that is that it's it's quite believable actually that
🔗 that something
🔗 that could catch on the business model even makes sense which is somebody who makes
🔗 online games I'm interested in that. A failed down to me at the level of plots.
🔗 Actually he and I'm not going to say too much about it
🔗 but I think I think there's a lot of.
🔗 Exploiting things going on in it
🔗 and then at the end it just sort of sleep the hunger games I think we can
🔗 reasonably say that but visually.
🔗 I thought it set up very quickly the way you can be sucked into online approval.
🔗 Very well you see the film is told to use smartphone screens and text messages
🔗 and I think that's absolutely true about the way that teenagers are living now.
🔗 And of course they simply the is a sort of symptomatic moral panic in some way
🔗 about oh god.
🔗 But what if we just hadn't had what if these these new game is going to kill you.
🔗 That's always what people are frightened of when this new technology a new game.
🔗 You know I think about Job war games from the one nine hundred eighty S.
🔗 The Matthew Broderick movie which is. Also what if it destroys the premise.
🔗 What if it kills you.
🔗 And of course mazes the monsters which is the one nine hundred eighty S. T.V.
🔗 Film of the young Tom Hanks all remember which is Dungeons
🔗 and Dragons could kill you but even allowing for
🔗 that aspect of it I thought there was something very authentic about the glamour of
🔗 gaming and I sucked you in and I wondered what you made of of that aspect of it
🔗 and in that sense because part of me was something that trial and for the visuals.
🔗 But also fight club for the excitement of the secret world in the city you think
🔗 you know. Yes And I think that's actually very true although today's world.
🔗 It's more easy than ever.
🔗 I think for teenagers to access that a secret world
🔗 that their parents don't know about to be able to talk about things
🔗 that maybe their parents don't want them talking about
🔗 but there it is you know you're on tumblr you're on Instagram. You're on.
🔗 Meth many other apps are available on any of these any of these social networks
🔗 and actually there is nobody train that goes past really quickly.
🔗 There are apps which are meant to delete a scene as you put something in so
🔗 suddenly a world of conversation is opened up and I think as always.
🔗 Grownups are a bit frightened that teenagers live there.
🔗 We should say the visuals a stunt plane had all terrifying
🔗 and they're very realistic and yet is why it's brilliant.
🔗 I won't give it away but they are good.
🔗 I want to talk about the thing I noticed
🔗 when I saw it which is it reminded me a lot of desperately seeking season this
🔗 ninety nine.
🔗 She film recalls resign our cat is a similarly a girl from the suburbs
🔗 but she gets sucked in through the small ads in the paper.
🔗 Now is this a case of the medium is changed
🔗 but the stories the same I thought this was such a brilliant spot on you
🔗 but because idea I didn't see that at all but it reminded me of
🔗 and I think you're right.
🔗 Reminded me of the Michael Douglas movie the game where he's a sort of middle aged
🔗 business one full of onwe and he's playing this game is it real is it not real
🔗 and that's also sort of fascinating who is looking for an Alston to kicks perience
🔗 now are teenagers all in line going where is my authentic experience where all the
🔗 people that I can connect with where is my excitement where is my drama
🔗 and the reason the story
🔗 and overall the charming coming of age tell in this which is why I think it's
🔗 better than the game.
🔗 What it does feel like it's come from a book in the sense
🔗 that the characterization is deftly done.
🔗 It's it sort of just done with a few strokes but that nice strikes
🔗 and you do get the feeling
🔗 that you will be rooting for these characters by the end I definitely think this is
🔗 a cult film in the making. In ten years will be watching it back.
🔗 Namely Oldman thank you
🔗 and know if it's released nationwide today it's a difficult fifteen
🔗 and that's typically is mainly because of the terribly dangerous
🔗 and realistic looking stunts that you should not attempt yourself
🔗 but do you see the film. Now you're listening to front row with me.
🔗 Samir on it and think back a few years
🔗 and you'll remember the unfolding of the Greek economic
🔗 and political crisis as decades of tax evasion by the super rich and corruption
🔗 and denial by the nation's political classes
🔗 and super sized state sector brought the nation close to total economic collapse.
🔗 Now imagine an anonymous killer is blackmailing some of those tax evaders murdering
🔗 those who refuse to pay their taxes in full with hemlock poison arrows.
🔗 That's the premise of the final reckoning a radio play adapted for Radio four as
🔗 part of its weeding Europe season from a novel by Petrus Mark Harris which you can
🔗 hear this weekend.
🔗 He has won the get a medal in Germany for his astute political commentary
🔗 and is the writer of several crime novels featuring Athens police investigator
🔗 Costas Harry to us what's most striking is that Harry talks has a.
🔗 Dark secret to guilty of torturing detainees join the military joins in the one
🔗 nine hundred seventy S. On the line from Athens earlier today.
🔗 Petrus Macoris explained why he chose to tackle Greece's well used to crime fiction
🔗 is a beginning of two thousand.
🔗 Tant late two thousand and nine as the crisis came to Greece
🔗 and I was listening to politicians saying don't worry it will take some measure
🔗 and after two years it will be over and I knew that it wouldn't be over.
🔗 I knew all of that van Wyk
🔗 and unstable economies are hit by the crisis the crisis does not come as a tourist.
🔗 But we've had incidents permit and that
🔗 that time I said publicly I'm going to write a trilogy of the crisis
🔗 and the two aspects of each novel is first the reasons
🔗 that a crisis came to us
🔗 and the second aspect was about the difficulty of the Greeks
🔗 and the Greek families to sort of Vive during the case.
🔗 Because of course his daughter is talking about emigrating to find one of those
🔗 really don't.
🔗 And the daughter of the inspector is talking about immigrating this family is
🔗 living under Max worse conditions and then the third novel
🔗 and the force it becomes even worse. This country.
🔗 Didn't you know listen if she wanted to tell me I
🔗 I knew he told me so readers do they take a kind of pleasure in the books
🔗 because the killer always the criminal.
🔗 You know he's a knack to seeing punishment on the super rich tax evaders
🔗 and bankers.
🔗 Well I can tell you the reaction of the readers in Greece was very positive towards
🔗 the chaos. They said to me he is doing the right thing but this exam.
🔗 It is the change of this point because he's taking over the job
🔗 that the government should have done.
🔗 I hereby demand that you pay what you owe the authorities and on pay tax and
🔗 that you do this within five days failure to comply with this request will result
🔗 in a final reckoning. He was most sincerely the national tax collector.
🔗 Does that worry you.
🔗 As someone who's regarded very highly as a political commentator
🔗 that some of your readers say we like the killer. We're on his side. Yes.
🔗 They are on his site I don't know that
🔗 but I'm not extremely happy with his I would prefer as a
🔗 citizen not as a writer
🔗 that this people would say to me that's why we don have the riot public
🔗 organization to purchase a good this evaders.
🔗 We're talking today I just as the former head of the Greek Statistical Office
🔗 undressed Giorgio is facing trial for allegedly exaggerating the size of the
🔗 deficit. For those who are not in Greece.
🔗 It can feel like this is a country which is still in denial about why it's in the
🔗 mess it's in. And I wonder how you feel as someone who's novels are examining it.
🔗 And yet to perhaps being misunderstood.
🔗 It's to the Greeks still they think that.
🔗 It was not then mistake
🔗 but somebody else created this about some say in the government.
🔗 Others say the European Union Bank.
🔗 It's my opinion is that we have as a country.
🔗 We are bearing a great responsibility for what happens there is a second question
🔗 that is disability of the European Union based on wrong decision and vulgar.
🔗 Politics but that does not.
🔗 Make that is sponsibility of the Greeks less as someone who was born in Turkey
🔗 and has a mixed parentage.
🔗 Does that make you a writer who is both an outsider
🔗 and an insider in Greece.
🔗 I came to Greece late one nine hundred sixty four which means is
🔗 that the very difficult period after World War two and the civil war is not.
🔗 I mean an experience for me.
🔗 So I can have the privilege of the observer.
🔗 I'm always on I'm riding a filling my salve sitting in a distance
🔗 and observing the country and the people.
🔗 One of the things
🔗 that fascinates me about your detective Costas handed to us is
🔗 that he himself is haunted by his own experience of being involved in torture.
🔗 During the military jointer in the one nine hundred seventy S.
🔗 You can see the faces.
🔗 You don't remember the names you wake at night
🔗 and there they are underneath you around you like your children you know them
🔗 by the screen.
🔗 That's quite shocking in many ways to a reader of crime fiction you regard as a
🔗 hero. I know but that I've tried as from the first novel.
🔗 To explain to the greats that take can be say.
🔗 A relationship a friendship between a policeman who was forced to participate in
🔗 torture and the victim of a television which is an old communist.
🔗 They became friends
🔗 and if you did the next two novels the old continent is part of so many now because
🔗 I wanted to show to the Greeks
🔗 that even a divided country because still in the sixty's Greece was a divide.
🔗 Candy can find a way to come again together.
🔗 You've said in the past that Athens is dying not of heart disease
🔗 but of out Simas
🔗 and loss of memory is there a kind of mission you're on to force the Greek people
🔗 to remember what they don't want to remember and are they willing to listen
🔗 and talk about it in all my novels and not only in the crisis novel.
🔗 I'm all dealing with the past because I think still now
🔗 that the mistakes that were made by the Greeks in the past are still haunting us.
🔗 So I'm always talking about the past
🔗 and trying to find out where say the beginning of the problem is.
🔗 So this is something that many readers appreciate.
🔗 And it has also to do with the fact that the younger generations.
🔗 They don't know what happened.
🔗 So when they are reading that all they discover a past that they don't know.
🔗 Petrus more Carice and is part of Radio who's reading your season.
🔗 You can hear the first episode of the final reckoning this Sunday afternoon at
🔗 three. Now already this week we deserted Lincoln cathedral wins the races
🔗 and the burning in canal network to find some of the country's most unusual artists
🔗 in residence.
🔗 Tonight we head to a care home in Gloucestershire which is taking part in the
🔗 making of me a project run by the courtyard Center for the arts.
🔗 Times that we wrote together.
🔗 My name's Johnson grace and eyes.
🔗 Johnny's classical spoken word artist and.
🔗 A poet in residence wire house nursing
🔗 and eventually care home in Stratford in Gloucestershire where I can only bear to
🔗 use words and found the poetry in the things.
🔗 Would you like me to read you the poem about quitting.
🔗 This is a little piece called We're both ninety. I've been right up to the palace.
🔗 We had a job to get through
🔗 and I loved seeing her come through in a carriage.
🔗 I always used to dress up nice seeing her. Come through in her carriage.
🔗 She would wave to me.
🔗 And we when we waved back to her it was her birthday wasn't tests.
🔗 I remember her first day same smiling with same as mine.
🔗 See interface comes through in her R.H. He always wears.
🔗 She always wears. A nice.
🔗 So what we're going to do with the sound of the piece just look at the picture
🔗 and see what full blood.
🔗 So come on come on my name is me and Humphrey.
🔗 And I am an activity coordinator since throughout what John has done is
🔗 take all those reminiscences.
🔗 All those memories all those life histories. And put them in black and white.
🔗 We had a gentleman last week who was delighted.
🔗 But he exclaimed of these my words he couldn't quite believe it.
🔗 She said.
🔗 So for looking for
🔗 something to do in the
🔗 Bronx Yes there have been incidents over the past few weeks
🔗 Residents who do not generally add into the conversation have.
🔗 How to trigger. By somebody else's wet. And they we called something in their past.
🔗 There's all that life leave and all that love shared and everything
🔗 that has gone on in those lives in
🔗 that says wonderful to bear to be part of the process of just recapturing some of
🔗 that. Even if only for a brief moment.
🔗 On my side little stars suddenly flaring up in the sky of all this forgotten memory
🔗 of the past or whatever and suddenly these little incident burn bright again.
🔗 Well have.
🔗 My poetry man back is pretty high.
🔗 Now then Betty. Have you been this way.
🔗 Good to learn yet you seem a lot more chipper than
🔗 when I saw exist saw you last week. And you are very quiet last week.
🔗 So used to work in more so yes I used to work that I estimated
🔗 that I was born there. Yes. I think I'm going to march fast there.
🔗 The way you said that I used to work there used to live there. I was born there.
🔗 I've done my fair share is a little poem in itself their revenue.
🔗 I know what he's pitched errancy
🔗 and I'm gonna come back to you next week in all poetry this coming of you you are
🔗 clever always your the one says a things all I do is move the words around a bit.
🔗 What was your work. Was it your own words yes yes.
🔗 I must've been it's very special it's John comes in
🔗 and listens to me it is it's very special. Well it's nice.
🔗 We realize it or the people are interesting him some think I've got to sigh.
🔗 You know as before. Well.
🔗 She's off again I hope you enjoy me coming in chatting to anyone else. I enjoy.
🔗 There is a sensual sense.
🔗 Then blossoming Do you remember when it came.
🔗 This is what we were talking about and in their eyes.
🔗 You see that light whether you are encouraging creativity in a child
🔗 or whether you are encouraging creativity in somebody in the final years of their
🔗 It will always always work magic is just part of being human I used to like playing
🔗 the piano. Three of us played Reuss all DRI and we made.
🔗 Mom and Dad just listened knees up.
🔗 Don't get the bring the liberating. I've still got it.
🔗 I've got a piano.
🔗 Candle holder one on each side a dark dark one more light than anything.
🔗 You know for me the performance poet John
🔗 Seagrave with the staff
🔗 and residents of White House in Stroud in Gloucestershire
🔗 and you can see photos on our Twitter feed at B.B.C.
🔗 Front row where you can also tweet suggestions for Artist in Residence you think we
🔗 should know about tomorrow forty years on from the release of the Sex Pistols first
🔗 single Anneke in the U.K. We tend to pin down the meaning of punk with D.J.
🔗 and Filmmaker Don let's
🔗 and musician Hazel O'Connor the star of the film breaking glass
🔗 and asked if the phenomenon known as queer drag is the new punk.
🔗 Do you join me tomorrow in front row at seven fifteen.
🔗 Front row was presented by Samir Ahmed produced by Rachel Simpson.
🔗 In a moment father Quixote
🔗 and his friend's son show attract the young welcome attention of the Guardia real
🔗 Rio twenty six to the Olympic Games.
🔗 The greatest show on a live on B.B.C. T.V.
🔗 and Radio five Live.